Today, the Sophists are seen a relativists since they had the belief that "man was the measure of all things." What they meant by this was that "man"--or any persons with enough skill--could construct logical or moral arguments for any intellectual position or in support of just about any act. To cite an extreme example, a Sophist could make an argument in support of an act of unjustifiably killing someone. Such arguments made by defense lawyers in criminal trials these days not only exemplify the Sophist way of thinking and dealing with an issue, but also evidence the continuing influence of the relativism they espoused in Athens.